柯博拉推薦｜以色列太空計劃負責人：“外星人要求不要宣布他們在這裡，人類還沒有準備好”！
柯博拉推薦｜以色列太空計劃負責人：“外星人要求不要宣布他們在這裡，人類還沒有準備好”！- 準備轉變 / 2020年12月29日
On December 4th,2020,former Head of Israeli space program Professor Haim Eshed has conducted an interview.In this interview,he disclosed that there is a Galactic Confederation that aliens exist and have been in contact with US for years.However,they have kept it a secret because they didn't feel humanity was ready.
2020年12月4日，以色列空間項目前負責人海姆•伊希德教授進行了一次採訪。在這次採訪中，他透露，有一個銀河聯邦外星人的存在，並已與美國接觸多年。然而，他們一直保守著這個秘密，因為他們覺得人類還沒有準備好。
The original source of this interview is from a platform called'ynet'.It is the digital news format of one of the most widespread newspaper called:'Yediot Achronot'.Meaning of the name-latest news.
這次採訪的原始資料來源於一個叫做"ynet"的平台。它是最廣為流傳的報紙之一"Yediot Achronot"的數字新聞格式。這個名字的意義-最新的新聞。
Below is the full transcript of the interview,with comments by the translator Michal Greenberg in italic.
以下是採訪的完整文字記錄，以及翻譯邁克爾·格林伯格用斜體所作的評論。
Special thanks to Michal Greenberg for translating this very important interview into English.
特別感謝 michael Greenberg 將這次非常重要的採訪翻譯成英文。
------Beginning of the transcript------
Prof.Haim Eshed headed the Israeli space program and led the Ofek satellite launch project.But it was only after he left his official duties that he turned to what really interested him:aliens.In a new book,"The Universe Beyond the Horizon, "he argues that aliens from all over the universe are already walking among us,third-type encounters are just around the corner and the"Galactic Federation"is delaying the publication of information so as not to cause panic.Now he tells how the aliens prevented some nuclear holocausts,what's really going on at the mysterious farm in Utah and when we can jump in to visit black holes.
海姆·伊希德教授領導了以色列的太空計劃，並領導了Ofek衛星發射計劃。但是只有在他離開他的官方職責之後，他才轉向真正讓他感興趣的東西：外星人。在他的新書《地平線之外的宇宙》(The Universe Beyond The Horizon)中，他認為來自宇宙各處的外星人已經在我們中間行走，第三類遭遇即將到來，而"銀河聯邦(galaxy federation )"正在推遲信息的發布，以免引起恐慌。現在，他講述了外星人如何阻止了一些核浩劫，猶他州神秘農場到底發生了什麼，以及我們什麼時候可以跳進去參觀黑洞。
It was a great start to the week.really.On Sunday I left Prof.Haim Eshed's house in an uplifted mood:sometime soon,for sure,we will contact aliens,they will teach us everything they know,science will leap a thousand light years ahead,we can start traveling time-space and jump with the kids to the end In the cluster of Pleiades,444 light-years away from the solar system-much better than Holon Park-and perhaps even the solution to the Beni Gantz riddle will be found.
這個星期是個好的開始。真的。星期天，我懷著愉快的心情離開了海姆•伊希德教授的家：不久的將來，我們肯定會與外星人接觸，他們會教給我們他們所知道的一切，科學會向前飛躍一千光年，我們可以開始時空旅行，和孩子們一起跳躍到終點在昴宿星團中，距離太陽系444光年，比霍倫公園好得多，甚至可能會找到解決貝尼甘茨之謎的方法。
This is the good news.
這是個好消息。
There is also great news,but let's wait a bit.patience.We have been waiting for thousands of years for a third type of encounter-and this encounter is just around the corner,Prof.Eshed believes that it will happen in his lifetime, and the man is 81 years old-so you will agree to wait until the middle of this article with the excellent news.Hint?This is eternal life,but not in this body-sorry,Neta Alhamister and Aviv Alush;Not in this body .Details later on.
還有一個好消息，讓我們再等等。耐心。我們已經為第三類相遇等待了數千年——而這種相遇就在眼前，伊希德教授相信它會在他的有生之年發生，而這個人已經81歲了——所以你會同意等到這篇文章的中間，帶著這個好消息。提示？這是永恆的生命，但不是在這個身體裡——對不起，Neta Alhamister 和 Aviv Alush；不是在這個身體裡。細節稍後再說。
I would not have bothered with the spontaneous burst of joy-what a burst of joy and Sunday-nor would I have stood in my tiny home garden that night staring at the sky in eager anticipation of I-do-not-know-what- if it had not been for Prof.Haim Eshed.
那天晚上，我也不會站在我家小小的花園裡，凝視著天空，渴望著——如果不是因為哈姆·埃舍德教授，我不知道會發生什麼。
Prof.Eshed is one of the most respected and sharp astronauts in Israel,who headed the Israel Space Agency's Administration at the Ministry of Defense and was directly responsible for planning and developing Israel's satellite program and launching the first satellite,Ofek 1,in 1988, with the specially developed Shavit launcher.Later he was also involved in the invention and development of Israeli drones.And the rest is history,a secret rifle.
埃希德教授是以色列最受尊敬和最敏銳的宇航員之一，他領導著以色列國防部的航天局，直接負責以色列衛星計劃的規劃和開發，並於1988年發射了第一顆衛星Ofek 1 ，特別開發的沙維特（Shavit）發射裝置。待會兒他還參與了以色列的發明和發展無人機。還有剩下的都是秘密。
I was left with my mouth open
我張著嘴離開
What about a senior pilot,researcher and technologist in aeronautics,who won the Israel Security Award and the Chief of Staff's Award,and the aliens?Eshed is by no means a geek from the comic book store that tells you about the flying saucer that landed in his yard yesterday at noon just as he was feeding the cats.No;Eshed is perhaps the most senior responsible person in Israel in the-let's say-industry,flying things at jet speed for purposes for which silence is preferable.
一位獲得以色列安全獎和參謀長獎的高級飛行員、研究人員和航空技術專家，以及外星人呢？埃希德絕不是漫畫書店裡的怪人，他告訴你昨天中午他正在餵貓的時候，飛碟落在了他的院子裡。不，埃希德也許是以色列航空業中最資深的負責人，他以噴氣式飛機的速度飛行，目的在於保持沉默。
But in the last decade,he admits,the aliens have been constantly employing him,and in the last two years the business has already become inflationary;With about 6,000 reports last year of UFOs observed in the West,and with the documentation of the celestial object"Umuamua"in Hawaii-about which Prof .Abraham Leib,head of the Department of Astronomy at Harvard,stated that it was an UFO-Eshed can no longer resist."Even Harry Reid,the former majority leader in the USSenate,has now given an interview and said:'Click on the government to publish the evidence it has accumulated over the years.Enough is enough.'
但他承認，在過去的十年裡，外星人一直在不斷僱用他，在過去的兩年裡，這項業務已經變得通貨膨脹；去年在西方觀察到大約6000個不明飛行物的報告，以及夏威夷天體“Umuamua”的記錄，天文系主任亞伯拉罕·萊布教授（Prof.Abraham Leib）也提到了這一點，就連前蘇聯多數黨領袖哈里·里德（Harry Reid）現在也接受了採訪，他說：“點擊政府公佈過去幾年積累的證據”。好幾年了。夠了“夠了”。
Until recently,Eshed actually managed to hold back,but then Trump officially set up the"space arm,"and the press was given a message that the Pentagon's"task force for unidentified aerial phenomena"would begin publishing its findings to the public every six months.At the same time,American billionaire Robert Bigelow's Skinwalker cattle farm in Utah-a place formerly suspected of being a favorite airport by aliens-has documented several things that no amount of popcorn in the world will be enough to watch.
直到最近，埃希德實際上還是忍住了，但隨後特朗普正式成立了“太空手臂”，新聞界得到消息，五角大樓的“不明空中現象特別工作組”將開始每六個月向公眾公佈一次調查結果個月。在同時，美國億萬富翁羅伯特·畢格羅(Robert Bigelow)在猶他州的“Skinwalker石斑客”養牛場——這個地方曾被懷疑是外星人最喜歡的機場——記錄了幾件世界上再多的爆米花也看不完的事情。
"Abnormal phenomena have now been documented on this farm,"an enthusiastic Eshed."A team of NASA scientists and MIT graduates brought all the possible devices there-cameras,spectrometers,spectrographs,gamma-ray,X-ray,UV,IR, all the fields,and see things I,who have been researching for ten years,I was left with my mouth open.Not just me.I spoke with Prof.Itzik Ben-Israel(currently chairman of the Space Agency)who always grinned a little,and he was also moved.
一位熱情的Eshed說：“異常現象現在已經在這個農場被記錄下來了，一個由NASA科學家和麻省理工學院畢業生組成的團隊帶來了所有可能的設備，相機，光譜儀，光譜儀，伽馬射線，X射線，紫外，紅外，所有的領域，以及我已經研究了十年的東西，我曾一度張嘴訝異。不是只有我。我和你說過伊茲克教授本·伊斯雷爾（Itzik Ben-Israel 現任航天局主席）總是咧嘴一笑，他也很感動。
What did they see there?
他們在那裡看到了什麼？
"Do you know the term portal in this context?So you see a name that appears UFO-you shoot it in the whole spectrum of cameras,you see the radiation at all frequencies,it's raging!"
“在這種情況下，您知道術語“門戶”嗎？所以當你看到一個名字出現在UFO的時候，你在所有的攝像機中拍攝它，你看到所有頻率的輻射，它在肆虐！”
It can not be some familiar aerial vehicle?
不會是某種熟悉的飛行器吧？
"No!It shows clear signs of UFOs:insane accelerations,lack of gravity,90-degree changes of direction at tremendous speeds,deformation.And all the scientists there are in complete shock."
“不！它顯示了UFO的明顯跡象：瘋狂的加速度，失重，以驚人的速度改變方向90度，變形。那裡的所有科學家都完全震驚了。 "
And what does the UFO do?
UFO 是做什麼的？
"You see the radiation bounce,and you see a shape-shifting body come out,a light coming out of it at a frequency you can't see with the naked eye-in fact you see nothing when you look normally-but in cameras ,at high frequencies,you see that body perform."Mutilation Carnage-draws blood from the cattle on the ground in front of your eyes."
"你看到輻射反彈，你看到一個形狀變化的物體出現，一束光以肉眼無法看到的頻率從中射出——事實上，當你正常觀察時，你什麼也看不到——但是在攝像機中，在高頻率下，你看到這個物體的表現。"毀屍滅跡——從你眼前地上的牛群中抽取血液。"
What exactly did they see?
他們到底看到了什麼？
"Something like a cloud like that.Like drawing a ghost to children.It's an undefined,amorphous cloud,and the rays emanate from it,and you see the cow twitching.And when it's over everyone runs to the field to see,and there is nothing,no blood-but the cow's body has a cut"It's like with a laser.They took out her organs and drew blood for her!If they told me that,I would say,'Sorry,this is a show.But MIT professors and leading researchers have seen and confirmed it,and everyone's shocked.So listen,you have to at least check."
像那樣的雲。就像給孩子們畫鬼一樣。這是一片未定義的，無定形的雲，光線從中散發出來，你可以看到奶牛在抽搐。當一切結束後，每個人都跑到田野裡去看，那裡什麼都沒有，沒有血——但是牛的身體上有一道傷口。他們取出她的器官，為牠抽血！如果他們告訴我這些，我會說，'對不起，這是一場表演。但是麻省理工學院的教授和主要研究人員已經看到並證實了這一點，每個人都感到震驚。所以聽著，你們至少要檢查一下。"
Why does Robert Bigelow himself not tell about it?
為什麼 Robert Bigelow 自己不說？
"He received huge funding from NASA as part of programs that my friends from there are just mumbling about under his nose,and he promised in writing that everything goes to the Pentagon and is housed there.It annoys him that the Ministry of Defense is not willing to take anything out."
"他收到了來自美國宇航局的巨額資金，作為項目的一部分，我在那裡的朋友只是在他鼻子底下嘀咕，他在書面上承諾，所有的東西都會送到五角大樓，並在那裡安置。國防部不願意拿出任何東西，這讓他很惱火。"
Agreement between the Aliens and the United States
外國人和美國之間的協議
Well,we'll have to stop here for a moment,because we're just getting started and later Prof.Eshed may say even more far-reaching things,so it's worthwhile to take a look here and now at,let's say,his speed of connection at his age;Well,it's absolute.
我們必須在這裡停一下，因為我們剛剛開始，稍後伊希德教授可能會說更深遠的東西，所以這裡和現在值得一看，比如說，他在這個年齡的連接速度，這是絕對的。
In fact,Eshed looks much younger and more energetic than his age.His study is full with books,letters of appreciation and especially countless folders in which he meticulously stores every single article on his business-including,for the past decade,aliens.And he talks about the subject with the same gleam in his eyes that Richard Dreyfus runs through throughout Spielberg's"third-type encounters."In fact,Eshed is currently a kind of Israeli Dreyfus traveling against the direction of traffic on the way to a meeting he knows is about to take place at the foot of a mountain whose shape he unknowingly sculpted in his pile of mashed potatoes.
事實上，伊希德看起來比他的年齡更年輕，更有活力。他的書房裡堆滿了書籍、感謝信，尤其是無數的文件夾，他在裡面一絲不苟地存放著他生意上的每一篇文章——包括過去十年裡的《外星人》。他談到這個話題時，眼中閃爍著理查德•德雷福斯(Richard Dreyfus)在斯皮爾伯格的《第三類接觸》(third-type encounters)中貫穿始終的那種光芒，事實上，伊希德現在是一個以色列的Dreyfus，在去參加一個他知道即將在山腳下舉行的會議的路上，他不知不覺地在他的土豆泥堆裡雕刻出了這個山的形狀。
The amounts of material and information that Eshed has accumulated on the subject,along with his almost childish enthusiasm,often cause him to zigzag between different matters and issues in a pattern quite similar to that of an average UFO:rapid changes of direction,far- reaching accelerations,a form that takes time to stabilize.
伊希德在這個問題上積累了大量的材料和信息，再加上他近乎孩子氣的熱情，經常導致他在不同的事物和問題之間搖擺不定，其模式與一般UFO非常相似：方向的快速變化，影響深遠的加速度，一種需要時間才能穩定下來的形式。
His determination-even when it goes against what seems reasonable logic or the perceptions of the"mainstream academy,"as he calls it-accumulates throughout the conversation and becomes,at some point,compelling.His new book,"The Universe Beyond the Horizon "(published by Yedioth Ahronoth),co-authored by author Hagar Yanai and serves as a kind of biography that tells the story of his life,devotes all his last and extensive part to Yopology-researching aliens and hundreds of findings and testimonies collected in the field to date.The materials are serious and authoritative,and do not include explicit references to Alef or Mork from Ork Star.You quickly read these pages in the book and find yourself mumbling at the end,against your good judgment:heck,they 're here.
他的決心——即使違背了似乎合理的邏輯，或者違背了他所謂的"主流學術"的觀念——在整個談話過程中不斷積累，並在某種程度上變得令人信服。他的新書《地平線之外的宇宙》(yedioth ahronoth 出版社出版)，與作者Hagar Yanai 合著，作為一本傳記，講述了他的生活故事，把他最後和最廣泛的部分獻給了Yopology - 研究外星人，以及迄今為止在這個領域收集的數百個發現和證詞。 《新消息報》(The Universe Beyond The Horizon)。這些材料都是嚴肅而權威的，並沒有明確提到 Alef 或者來自 Ork Star 的 Mork。你很快就讀完了這本書，然後發現自己在書的最後喃喃自語，違背了你良好的判斷：見鬼，它們就在這裡。
"If I had come up with what I tell you today five years ago,I would have been hospitalized,"Eshed knows."Everywhere I went to the academy to this day,they threw me out.Even though I was a star in other fields,when I got there they said:The guy went crazy.Kniewski."
“如果我在五年前告訴你今天的內容，我肯定會住院的”，埃希德知道。“直到今天，我去學院的每一個地方，他們把我趕了出去。儘管我是其他領域的明星，但當我到達那裡時，他們說：那傢伙瘋了。“Kniewski。”
Are you not risking academically when you are interviewed on the subject now?
你現在接受這個問題的採訪，不是在冒學術風險嗎？
"I have nothing to lose today.I have received my degrees and awards,I am honored at universities abroad,and even there the trend is changing and willing to talk about it,even if in many places still say:Listen,make sure the elephant in the room stays in the room,and do not quote us."
我今天沒什麼可失去的。我已經獲得了我的學位和獎項，我在國外的大學獲得了榮譽，即使在那裡，趨勢正在改變，並且願意談論它，即使在許多地方仍然說："聽著，確保房間裡的大象保持在房間裡，不要引用我們的話。"
Where such things are being said?
在哪裡說這樣的話？
"American presidents also testified to that.Truman admitted to seeing a whole bunch of aliens over Washington.Nixon,who was a friend of comedian Jackie Gleason and knew he was crazy about UFOs,told him,'I'm going to make your life's dream come true,'and took him to base.White-Patterson and showed him the bodies of aliens.Gleason went into depression from that.Eisenhower's granddaughter testifies that her grandfather signed an agreement with the aliens,that they would have a secret landing base here in Area 51 in Nevada,that they could come into contact with a limited number of people,conduct experiments,and that the condition was that they provide us with technologies.For the object to disengage from gravity-RS)".
"美國總統也證實了這一點。杜魯門承認在華盛頓上空看到了一大群外星人。尼克松是喜劇演員傑基•格里森(Jackie Gleason)的朋友，他知道自己為不明飛行物而瘋狂。他告訴他，'我要讓你的人生夢想成真'，並帶他去了基地。懷特-帕特森向他展示了外星人的屍體。格里森因此陷入了抑鬱。艾森豪威爾的孫女作證說她的祖父和外星人簽署了一份協議，他們將在內華達州51區建立一個秘密登陸基地，他們可以接觸到人數有限的人進行實驗，條件是他們必須向我們提供技術。讓這個物體脫離重力-RS"。
And we got these technologies?
我們有這些技術？
"Yes.We have anti-gravity and other things."
"是的，我們有反重力和其他東西。"
So why are they hiding from us and how can governments and armies in the world be able to cooperate in concealment of this magnitude?
那麼，他們為什麼要躲著我們呢？世界上的政府和軍隊如何能夠合作來隱藏如此重大的事件呢？
"Not all the governments of the world.There is a group of partners-the Americans,the Russians,the Japanese,the English and the Chinese-all coordinated at a level where it is still forbidden to publish,and those who asked not to publish are them."
不是世界上所有的政府。美國、俄羅斯、日本、英國和中國這些合作夥伴在一定程度上進行了協調，但仍然禁止發表文章，要求不發表文章的就是他們。 "
Who are they?
他們是誰？
"The Galactic Federation."
銀河聯邦
Is there such a thing?
有這種東西嗎？
"It exists.I wrote about it even though it was perceived as a conspiracy theory,but lately former senior generals are also saying to publish,and Trump was on the verge of finding out,and a few mainstream professors are also saying:Guys,tell.But the aliens in the federation say:Wait,let's"First calm down,do not post yet because you will see what is happening to you.You are still fighting each other,you will destroy yourself."
它存在。儘管這被認為是一個陰謀論，我還是把它寫了下來，但最近前高級將領們也說要發表，特朗普就快要發現了，一些主流教授也說：伙計們，說吧。但是聯邦裡的外星人說："等等，讓我們先冷靜下來，先不要發帖，因為你會看到發生在你身上的事情。你們還在互相爭鬥，你們會毀了自己的。"
Why not come and talk to us directly?
為什麼不直接過來和我們談談呢？
"Because it will create panic and collapse humanity.What will happen?The markets will collapse,there will be nothing to eat,people will become cannibals,hospitals will be shut down,all dark passions will come out,it may be the end- and they are not interested in it.On the contrary,they follow all the time.-And there are a lot of reports about it-after the nuclear events in the world,they monitor all the stations and nuclear weapons bases-I'm willing to give you all the things written-and there were already things they prevented.Know that it's not just luck that the Russians in the Pigs bay did not use nuclear weapons"The Americans.Someone neutralized it.Without them,I have no doubt that humanity would have destroyed itself.They want to say to humanity:Children,calm down."
"因為這會造成恐慌和人類的崩潰。會發生什麼？市場會崩潰，沒有東西吃，人們會變成食人族，醫院會被關閉，所有黑暗的激情會出現，這可能是結束——他們對此不感興趣。相反，他們一直在跟隨。-有很多關於它的報導-在世界上發生核事件之後，他們監視著所有的核電站和核武器基地-我願意給你們所有的書面材料-已經有他們阻止的事情了。要知道，在豬灣的俄羅斯人沒有使用核武器不僅僅是運氣好。有人中和了它。沒有他們，我毫不懷疑人類會自我毀滅。他們想對人類說：孩子們，冷靜下來。"
Why not make contact and say explicitly that they are coming in peace?
為什麼不進行接觸，明確表示他們是為和平而來？
The UFOs have asked not to publish that they are here,humanity is not ready yet.There will be a huge rampage of everyone,and what the Inquisition did to guys like Galileo and Copernicus will return.They want to make us sane first and understand .They waited until today for humanity to evolve and reach a point where we would even understand what space and a spacecraft are-think,in World War I we did not even have planes-and they do not want mass hysteria here,with the best example being what happened in 1938,with a sketch.Orson Welles'World War I,and the police collapsed and everything exploded in the streets.And what they say is:first of all,let's stand,that the stock markets will not fall, that there will be no rampage,that humanity will calm down a little."
不明飛行物已經要求不要公開他們的存在，人類還沒有準備好。每個人都會大發雷霆，宗教裁判對伽利略和哥白尼這樣的人所做的一切將會捲土重來。他們想讓我們首先理智和理解。他們一直等到今天，等到人類進化到我們甚至可以理解太空和航天器的地步——想想看，在第一次世界大戰中，我們甚至沒有飛機——他們不希望這裡出現大規模的歇斯底里，最好的例子就是1938年發生的事情，還有一張草圖。 Orson Welles 的第一次世界大戰，警察倒下了，街上的一切都爆炸了。他們所說的是：首先，讓我們站起來，股市不會下跌，不會出現暴亂，人性會稍微冷靜一點。"
Are we in communication with them regarding the date of disclosure?
我們是否與他們就披露日期進行了溝通？
"There is an agreement between the USgovernment and aliens-I can not prove it,I understand it sounds like a conspiracy theory-but the understanding is that the Galactic Federation has nine elements of advanced aliens of various kinds,who signed a contract with us to do experiments here."
"美國政府和外星人達成了一項協議——我無法證明這一點，我知道這聽起來像是一個陰謀論——但我們的理解是，銀河聯邦(消歧義)有九種不同種類的高級外星人，他們與我們簽訂了在這裡進行實驗的合同。"
What interest do they have in us?
他們對我們有什麼興趣？
"There are all the resources here.There is water here in quantities that are nowhere else,there is all kinds of vegetation,all kinds of animals,the ocean."
"這裡有所有的資源。這裡有其他地方沒有的大量水，有各種各樣的植被，各種各樣的動物，還有海洋。"
But as intelligence developed from us,what are we useful to them?
但是隨著智慧從我們身上發展出來，我們對他們有什麼用呢？
"We are their petri dish.They too are researching and trying to understand the whole fabric of the universe,and they want us as helpers.To this day the petri dish has not been stabilized-but it is estimated that we are reaching this stage :religion accepts their existence-the Vatican has already announced it wants to baptize them;"The UN has appointed an ambassador for foreign affairs(Mollan Othman-RS);
我們是他們的培養皿。他們也在研究和試圖理解整個宇宙的結構，他們希望我們成為幫手。直到今天，培養皿還沒有穩定下來——但據估計，我們正在到達這個階段：宗教接受它們的存在——梵蒂岡已經宣布要給它們施洗禮；
The corona calmed everything and brought us closer to them."
corona平息了一切，讓我們離他們更近了。"
Come on,in the present age there is no way such a thing would have been kept secret.
得了吧，在當今時代，這樣的事情是不可能被保密的。
"How many years have you kept the fact that the Earth is not the center of the universe a secret?1,500 years.Or the'Manhattan Plan'(US atomic bomb project)-do you know how many people worked there?150,000 people. How many knew what it was?.three.So if you want to keep such a thing a secret,you can.And there is a terrible,obsessive system of silence,of the Americans,who have decided,under the guidance of the aliens ,who are not yet publishing.Robert Bigelow also said:"I can not publish the films."
"你隱瞞地球不是宇宙中心這個事實有多少年了？1500年了。或者"曼哈頓計劃"(美國原子彈計劃)——你知道有多少人在那裡工作嗎？15萬人。有多少人知道這是什麼？三個。所以如果你想保守這個秘密，你可以。有一個可怕的，強迫性的沉默系統，美國人，他們已經決定，在外星人的指導下，他們還沒有出版。羅伯特·畢格羅也說："我不能出版這些電影。"
Why,will they kill him?
為什麼，他們會殺了他嗎？
"Yes.Killed a lot along the way.Everyone who opened their mouths."
"是的，一路上殺了很多人，每個開口說話的人"
Aliens and astronauts on Mars
火星上的外星人和宇航員
You understand that the discussion with Eshed slides almost at any given time into the expected pattern in which you try to stop a person's speech from being upset with a story that requires at least some degree of skepticism.In front of all your"yes,but"there are ten more seemingly obvious proofs in the form of articles,quotes,opinions and gut feelings that feel solid.It's still a fascinating discussion,mainly because it's Eshed-someone who's fully aware of the conspiratorial ringing,coming from the overlap,of the whole business, and yet he insists there are things-probably flying-which are very much real.
您知道，使用伊希德的討論幾乎在任何給定的時間都會滑入預期的模式，在這種模式中，您試圖阻止一個人對至少需要某種程度懷疑的故事感到不安。在你所有的"是的，但是"之前，還有10個看起來明顯的證據，以文章、引用、觀點和直覺的形式，讓你感覺很可靠。這仍然是一個引人入勝的討論，主要是因為它是伊希德，一個完全意識到整個業務重疊所帶來的陰謀的人，但他堅持認為有些東西——可能是飛行的——是非常真實的。
Throughout most of his years,Eshed actually clung to the here and now.The new book tells the story of a child who immigrated with his parents from Istanbul in the difficult 1940s to the border between the Mugrabi neighborhood and Tikva in Tel Aviv,categorized in elementary school as a stereotypical and hopeless product of the neighborhood,paved for a vocational school and accepted,still without a matriculation certificate.In the Faculty of Building and then in Electrical Engineering.The sequel already included a doctorate in aeronautical engineering,development of technological infrastructure and weapons for the intelligence division,and a professional look,when following the peace agreement with Egypt and the halting of the possibility of freely photographing what was happening in Sinai,Eshed came up with the unlikely idea oflaunching a satellite.Opposition was sweeping,but nine years and about$200 million later,Ofek 1 was launched,making Israel the seventh country in the world with the ability to develop and launch satellites.
在他的大部分時間裡，伊希德實際上都緊緊抓住此時此地不放。這本新書講述了一個孩子的故事，他在困難的1940年代隨父母從伊斯坦布爾移民到特拉維夫Mugrabi 社區和Tikva 之間的邊界，在小學被歸類為該社區的陳規定型和無望的產物，為職業學校鋪平了道路，並被接受，但仍然沒有大學入學證書。在建築學院，然後是電氣工程學院。這個續集已經包括了航空工程學博士學位，為情報部門開發技術基礎設施和武器，以及一個專業的視角。在與埃及達成和平協議以及停止自由拍攝西奈半島發生的事情之後，伊希德想出了發射一顆衛星的不太可能的主意。反對聲浪席捲而來，但9年後，耗資約2億美元的 Ofek 1發射成功，使以色列成為世界上第七個有能力發展和發射衛星的國家。
Eshed spent the next 29 years in Israel's security space program,and after his official retirement he continued to develop a science curriculum for middle schools-including the actual launch of tiny box satellites by students.
伊希德在以色列的安全太空計劃中度過了接下來的29年，在他正式退休後，他繼續為中學開發科學課程——包括學生們實際發射微型盒式衛星。
Then,roughly,the aliens began to enter into the routine of his peaceful life,or as he immediately clarifies at the beginning of the conversation:"Space for me is an obsession.When an ordinary person looks at the sky at night he sees darkness and some stars.I see amazing things there all the time."Stars that form,things that accumulate-listen,space is Times Square on July 4.Space is a carnival."
然後，大致上，外星人開始進入他平靜的日常生活，或者正如他在談話開始時立即澄清的那樣："太空對我來說是一種困擾。當一個普通人在夜晚仰望天空時，他看到的是黑暗和一些星星。我總能在那裡看到神奇的東西。形成的星星，積累的東西——聽著，太空是7月4日的時代廣場。太空是一個狂歡節。"
Eshed believes wholeheartedly in bringing the alien,though he personally admits he has never seen an UFO."."I think it's very close-next year NASA will launch the James Web telescope,which will replace the Tarantula Hubble,and it will detect real -life signals."
儘管他個人承認他從來沒有見過 UFO，但他仍然全心全意地相信把這個外星人帶來。我認為這是非常接近 - 明年美國宇航局將發射詹姆斯網絡望遠鏡，它將取代狼蛛哈勃望遠鏡，它將探測真實生活的信號。"
How many life forms are there in space?
太空中有多少種生命形式？
"There are thousands of stars with conditions similar enough to ours,and serious scientists have identified and documented dozens of life forms-even though the mainstream does not accept it.The closest to us are what we call'grays',which are gray creatures with large eyes with them".
"有成千上萬顆恆星的環境與我們的相似，嚴肅的科學家已經確認並記錄了幾十種生命形式——儘管主流社會並不接受這種說法。最接近我們的是我們稱之為'灰色'的生物，它們是長著大眼睛的灰色生物"。
Where are they geographically close to us?
它們在地理上靠近我們的地方在哪裡？
"Suppose some of them came from the Pleiades,planets that have living conditions we know about-we can't get there,but they can get to us because they are much more advanced."
"假設其中一些來自昴宿星，我們知道這些行星的生存條件，我們無法到達那裡，但它們可以到達我們這裡，因為它們要先進得多。"
Where else in the neighborhood is there life?
附近還有哪些地方存在生命？
"There is an underground base in the depths of Mars,and there are their representatives and also our American astronauts."
"火星深處有一個地下基地，那裡有他們的代表，也有我們的美國宇航員。"
How do we know that?
我們怎麼知道的？
"Do you want articles?There are.But science,until now,does not want to hear."
"你想要文章嗎？有。但是科學界，直到現在，還不想聽。"
What do their aircraft look like?
他們的飛行器長什麼樣？
"The large spacecraft is almost the size of a small town.Small spacecraft emerge from it-most of them robotic,manned by intelligent robots.At first they will send such robots,primitive to them,or a message we will have to decipher. "
“這艘大型飛船幾乎有一個小鎮那麼大。小型宇宙飛船由此誕生——其中大部分是機器人，由智能機器人操控。一開始，他們會發送這樣的機器人，對他們來說是原始的，或者是我們必須破譯的信息。”
To reach us they need to move at least at the speed of light.What is their propulsion method-rocket?Nuclear?
為了接近我們，它們至少需要以光速移動。他們的推進方法是什麼?火箭？核武器？
"No.They have a method of making a bubble that neutralizes time-space,and the tool does not move-space moves,and this is consistent with general relativity.Take for example an ant that wants to get from one page to the other.Now let's say I folded the page in two- it moves to the other side"In a second.That's how you fold time-space as well."
"不。他們有一種製造泡沫的方法，可以中和時空，而且工具不會移動 - 空間移動，這與廣義相對論是一致的。舉個例子，一隻螞蟻想從一頁到另一頁。現在讓我們假設我把頁面折疊成兩頁——它馬上移動到另一邊。這也是你折疊時空的方式。 "
What do they use to move time-space?
他們用什麼來移動時空？
"It's a bit of a complex physics;propulsion is based on dark energy-25 percent of the universe is dark matter-which allows time-space to be distorted and reach other galaxies in no time.You can create a tiny black hole-that's what we do in Switzerland"It's technologies that sound like science fiction but are almost there."
"這是一個有點複雜的物理過程，推進是基於暗能量的——宇宙中25%的物質是暗物質——這使得時空扭曲，很快就能到達其他星系。你可以創造一個微小的黑洞——這就是我們在瑞士所做的。"這些技術聽起來像科幻小說，但幾乎已經實現了。"
And what will happen when they come to us?
當它們來到我們身邊時會發生什麼呢？
"Humanity will connect to the fabric of the universe,and once we connect,our science will leap in thousands of years,we will be capable of anti-gravity,we will move between star systems,religion will lose the control it has today- aliens do not believe in religion,they believe in deciphering the fabric of the universe,which is not God,It's math"
"人類將與宇宙的結構相連，一旦我們相連，我們的科學將在數千年內飛躍，我們將能夠反重力，我們將在星系間移動，宗教將失去今天的控制 - 外星人不相信宗教，他們相信解密宇宙的結構，這不是上帝，這是數學"
Say,why are they always described as relatively short creatures,with a long neck and a large head?This is exactly the way the immediate human imagination will see them.
比如說，為什麼他們總是被描述成相對矮小的生物，長著長長的脖子和大大的腦袋？這正是人類直接想像中看到它們的方式。
"No.They have all kinds of shapes-they are a function of the star around which they cluster,and some of them can make shape shifting."
"不。它們有各種各樣的形狀——它們是圍繞它們聚集的恆星的一個函數，其中一些可以使形狀發生變化。"
Is it biologically reasonable?
這在生物學上合理嗎？
"Yes.Here is an example that you will understand immediately"-Eshed points to the heavy wooden table between us."It's a table,yes?It's made of atoms.And if the nucleus of the atom is here on the table-do you know where its electron is?Maybe in Rosh Pina,maybe in the middle of nothing.It's quantum theory;the material is empty."
"是的。這是一個你馬上就會明白的例子。"——伊希德指著我們之間沉重的木桌。這是一張桌子，對嗎？它由原子組成。如果原子核在桌子上，你知道它的電子在哪裡嗎？也許在 Rosh Pina 中，也許在虛無之中。這是量子理論，物質是空的。"
But you and I do not know how to turn this table into something else now.
但是你和我現在不知道如何把這張桌子變成別的東西。
"But we too are energy.Even when we die we do not die,because we are made of molecules and atoms,and we move to another energy.You connect back to the cosmic fabric,to the web,to the connection of consciousnesses. You are consciousness."
但我們也是能量。即使我們死了，我們也不會死，因為我們是由分子和原子組成的，我們移動到另一種能量。你回到宇宙結構，回到網絡，回到意識的連接。你就是意識。"
She's going to die with me,isn't she?
她要和我一起死了，不是嗎？
"No,forget it.The consciousnesses will not die.Everything you have accumulated is added.It goes to the same network-and everything you have accumulated in your life,the personality,the total of what you have gone through,it accumulates. Stephen Hawking also understood that our consciousness adds to the fabric of the universe.We are building blocks.A phase on the way."
"不，算了吧。意識不會消亡。你所積累的一切都被增加了。它進入同一個網絡——你在生活中所積累的一切，你的個性，你所經歷的一切，它都在積累。史蒂芬·霍金也明白，我們的意識增加了宇宙的結構。我們是積木。一個正在進行的階段。"
Biologists will tell you nonsense,it's all chemical and electrical activity in the brain.
生物學家會對你胡說八道，這些全都只是大腦中的化學和電子活動。
"Bring me proof.Do you know that this is the biggest debate in science-consciousness?They have not summed it up,and there are phenomena that cannot be explained by electrical activity in the brain."
"給我證據。你知道這是科學意識中最大的爭論嗎？他們還沒有總結出來，有些現像是無法用大腦的電活動來解釋的。"
Humanity will not survive here
人類將無法在這裡生存
I admit that by this point in the discussion I had already moved all my chips(he means from the Casino)to Eshed's side.I'm with him in this gamble.I'm ready and willing,when the day comes,to reconnect my mind to the general fabric-save me a spot next to Jerry Seinfeld's Consciousness-and I'm anxiously awaiting,along with Eshed,the official announcement of continued engagement with the aliens-it's unlikely to come through.A special announcement by the Prime Minister that Eshed believes that Netanyahu is not in the know."Most countries are isolated from it,"he says.and better this way.
我承認，在討論到這一步的時候，我已經把我所有的籌碼(他的意思是從賭場)都轉移到了伊希德那邊。在這場賭博中，我和他是一伙的。我已經準備好並且願意，當那一天到來的時候，將我的思想重新連接到普通的織物上——在傑瑞·宋飛的意識旁給我留一個位置——我和伊希德一起焦急地等待著官方宣布繼續與外星人交戰的消息——這不太可能實現。以色列總理發表了一份特別聲明，稱伊希德認為內塔尼亞胡並不知情。他說："大多數國家都被孤立了"。這種方式更好。
It's too easy-certainly as the last paragraph suggests-to dismiss most of this conversation as somewhat delusional,but Eshed is still the one who has accumulated reliable and impressive enough mileage in his life.From service with the rookie Netanyahu("I can tell you things that will bring you down")to conversations with Elon Musk("He's a genius.Sit with him you might feel a little like with me-he's a little crazy like that,but he lives things,and his company,'Space X',Connected to the issue of aliens")-Eshed made sure to stay,specifically in his business,with both feet on the ground."I'm not a space scientist,I'm a space technologist,"he explains.
很容易——當然正如最後一段所暗示的那樣——把這次談話的大部分內容視為有點妄想，但是Eshed 仍然是那個在他的生活中積累了足夠可靠和令人印象深刻的里程數的人。從為新人內塔尼亞胡服務("我可以告訴你一些會讓你失望的事情")到與埃隆·馬斯克("他是個天才。和他坐在一起，你可能會覺得有點像和我坐在一起——他是有點瘋狂，但他生活得很好，他的公司"太空x"與外星人的問題相關。)——伊希德確保留下來，特別是在他的生意上，腳踏實地。他解釋說："我不是一個太空科學家，我是一個太空技術專家。”
Not that he would not pay any amount to go on an out-of-atmosphere expedition.In fact,he says,he was among the candidates to be the first Israeli astronaut,but Ilan Ramon was finally chosen,"and he was supposed to replace me after his return as head of the security space program,and allow me to return to academia."
並不是說他不願意支付任何金額去進行一次大氣層外的探險。事實上，他說，他是第一位以色列宇航員的候選人之一，但是Ilan Ramon 最終被選中了，"他應該在重新擔任安全太空項目負責人之後取代我，並允許我重返學術界。"
In retrospect you're probably glad you did not fly.
回想起來，你可能會慶幸自己沒有飛行。
"No,I'm very disappointed.Listen,humanity will not survive here,and if someone does not take care of the environment I will give us less than 50 years.Humanity will die-I hope they(Eshed pointing towards the ceiling) ,will not let that happen.To know where we came from and where we are going."
"不，我很失望。聽著，人類將無法在這裡生存，如果有人不愛護環境，我將給我們不到50年的時間。人類將會滅亡——我希望他們(伊希德指向天花板) ，不會讓這種事情發生。知道我們從哪裡來，我們要去哪裡。"
But in space tourism you are simply raised to a height of a hundred kilometers and then you return.What else is there to do there?
但是在太空旅遊中，你只是被提升到一百公里的高度然後回來。那裡還有什麼別的事要做嗎？
"Your consciousness changes.If you go out into space you come back different.Your picture is different.Ask any astronaut who has been there."
“你的意識會改變。如果你進入太空，你回來的時候就不一樣了。你的照片是不同的。問問任何一個去過那裡的宇航員。 "
Are you jealous of Eitan Steve?
你嫉妒伊坦史蒂夫嗎？
"He's a wonderful guy,and what happened is that they took and soiled it in a bibistic way.He came up with it and said,'I want it and I'm willing to pay.There were already five billionaires of Americans before him who went out."He just wanted to have the experience.My heart ached."
"他是一個很棒的傢伙，而事實是他們以一種聖經式的方式把它弄髒了。他想出了這個辦法說：'我想要它，我願意付錢。在他之前已經有五個億萬富翁離開了。他只是想體驗一下。我的心很痛。"
Is space tourism at all a scientific matter?
太空旅遊真的是一個科學問題嗎？
"No,it will end up as a hobby for the rich.What is really interesting is the asteroid mining-which has expensive materials in huge quantities,gold and platinum that have already sunk to the center of the globe and the asteroids are still on the surface."And cut what you want.And Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos are already planning it.It will be a new gold rush."
"不，它最終會成為富人的愛好。真正令人感興趣的是小行星採礦業——它擁有大量昂貴的材料，黃金和鉑已經沉入地球中心，而小行星仍然在地表。切割你想要的東西。埃隆·馬斯克和傑夫·貝索斯已經在計劃了。這將是一場新的淘金熱。"
What else will happen in the next decade?
未來十年還會發生什麼？
"I estimate that quantum computers will reach a level that will exceed human capacity in terms of consciousness.It will be superconscious,they will be smarter than us and much more significant than what is now.And the ability of the computer will advance the human consciousness-we will stop with all the pettiness and Miri Regev(I don't know what he exactly means mentioning this name–she was or still is in the knesset)and look forward,where we want to advance.If you understand that your consciousness is building the array of the universe,you will say:What should I quarrel with?I contribute my share,progress,in the end I am part of the fabric.I believe that humanity will stop dealing with pettiness and rise in level. Ten years from now,we will see a different consciousness."
"我估計，量子計算機將達到一個水平，將超過人類的意識能力。它將是超意識的，它們將比我們更聰明，比現在更重要。計算機的能力將推進人類的意識-我們將停止所有的瑣碎和Miri Regev(我不知道他到底是什麼意思提到這個名字-她是或仍然是在議會)，並展望，我們想要進步的地方。如果你明白你的意識正在構建宇宙的陣列，你會說：我應該和什麼爭吵？我貢獻我的份額，進步，最終我是這個結構的一部分。我相信人類將會停止處理瑣碎的事情，並且提升自己的水平。十年後，我們將看到一種不同的意識。"
At the moment,things seem to be going in the opposite direction,with the polarizing social networks and everything.
目前，事情似乎正朝著相反的方向發展，兩極分化的社交網絡和一切。
"It's momentary.It's like a petri dish that has problems that need to be neutralized.Science needs to be given a chance to work.Today the only thing that keeps us sane is science."
"這只是暫時的。就像一個培養皿，裡面有需要中和的問題。科學需要一個機會來發揮作用。今天，唯一能讓我們保持理智的是科學。"
He himself continues to research,advise and work with the Science Center in Herzliya,which transfers the science program to middle schools in six centers in the periphery.His eldest daughter became religious("in the middle of her doctorate,"he sadly announces) ,the middle son is a startupist,and the youngest daughter,now 39,works in Philadelphia as a capital market analyst.
他本人繼續在 Herzliya 的科學中心進行研究、諮詢和工作，該中心將科學項目轉移到周邊六個中心的中學。他的大女兒開始信教("正在攻讀博士學位，"他悲傷地宣布)，二兒子是個創業者，小女兒現年39歲，在費城做資本市場分析師。
This state of affairs has left Eshed,along the corona,devoid of grandchildren visits,and is not accustomed to this kind of disconnect.Married for the third time(the children from his first wife),Eshed finds himself,more than once,misses ,but he believes that here too,science is on the way to salvation.
這種狀況已經離開了伊希德，隨著冠狀病毒，沒有孫輩的探訪，並且不習慣這種脫節。第三次結婚(第一任妻子的孩子)，伊希德發現自己不止一次地想念，但他也相信，科學正在通往救贖的道路上。
"Quantum theory says you canbe here and there,and you know what Einstein said about quantum theory?Which is the dumbest thing that can happen,but it works,"he says."And that also means we can maneuver in space-time,and while I sit with you here,I can also sit with my daughter in Philadelphia.The granddaughters keep asking where Grandpa is,and that will allow us to be there,really there,not with alternative reality helmets.And you can Embrace your daughter even if she is in another country."Prof.Michio Kaku(Japanese-American physicist,one of the founders of string theory)said:'We will be able to jump 400 years forward like a frog.'Think about what has only happened in the last 50 years :how many years has there been an Internet?Cellular?Now think in terms of a 400-year leap."
他說："量子理論說你可以在這裡或那裡，你知道愛因斯坦怎麼說量子理論嗎？這是可能發生的最愚蠢的事情，但它確實有效"，他說。 "這也意味著我們可以在時空中進行機動，當我和你坐在這裡的時候，我也可以和我在費城的女兒坐在一起。孫女們一直在問爺爺在哪裡，這樣我們就可以去那裡，真的去那裡，而不是戴著另類的現實頭盔。你可以擁抱你的女兒，即使她在另一個國家。"加庫道雄教授(日裔美國物理學家，弦理論的創始人之一)說："我們將能像青蛙一樣向前跳躍400年"。想想在過去的50年裡發生了什麼：互聯網出現了多少年了？蜂窩網絡？現在想想400年的飛躍。"
Raa'nan Shaked
4.12.2020
2020年12月4日
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Do you want to share with us?
你想和我們一起分享嗎？
Do you have any experience of contacting positive Extra-Terrestrial beings in the dream state?If so,and if you want to share it,you can send this to the following email addresses,then we will publish them on this blog.
你是否有過在夢境中與積極的外星人接觸的經歷？如果有，如果你想分享它，你可以把它發送到以下電子郵件地址，然後我們會在這個博客上發布它們。
You are also invited to share your past life memories.Do you perhaps remember any lifetimes you had as an ET being before coming to Earth?
你也被邀請分享你過去的生活記憶。你是否還記得在你來到地球之前作為外星人的生活？
You can also send us your visions of the Golden Age as well.How would life on Earth be?How human beings would interact with positive ET?
你也可以把你對黃金時代的幻想發送給我們。地球上的生活會怎樣？人類將如何與積極的外星人互動？
Those of you,who would like to share their memories,visions of Golden Age or dream time experience are free to do so anonymously if necessary.We also heartily welcome any pictures of ET dream encounters(or other interdimensional encounters).You do not need to be a professional artist,just draw from the heart,even if it is only a sketch–not a single sketch will be deemed as''too unprofessional to be posted''.
如果你們願意分享他們的記憶，黃金時代的願景或者夢想時間的經驗，可以在必要的時候匿名這樣做。我們也衷心歡迎任何關於外星人夢境遭遇(或其他次元間遭遇)的圖片。你不需要成為一個專業的藝術家，只是從心裡畫，即使它只是一個素描-沒有一個素描將被視為"太不專業的張貼"。
We prefer to receive your experience in English,but we are also happy to get them in any other languages and we will put up the English translation in our best efforts as well as the original version together.
我們希望得到您的英語經驗，但我們也很高興得到他們在任何其他語言，我們將提供英文翻譯在我們的最大努力，以及原始版本在一起。
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